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Hiker
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Poor bitrate !!

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Why my edits in Quik has only 15M birate? I recorded 2.7K/60 with 60M bitrate but after aditing in Quik its looses quality to 8M bitarte! Its crap! How can I fix this problem? I bought 7 Black to use Quik App but with this settings its not usable!

GoPro
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Re: Poor bitrate !!

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@jaroslawn86267, thanks for reaching out. With the file export in Quik for Desktop, the current maximum bitrate is 15Mb/s as the video file only has an approximate one (1) minute duration.

 

For mobile editing, you can use Quik for Mobile. Check out this article for more information about the video quality output in Quik for Mobile app.

Alternatively, you can check this list of editing applications that work well with GoPro files as shared by a Hub member. 

 

If you would like product or tutorial videos to better understand these other applications, I recommend searching online video hosting websites (such as Youtube, Vimeo, etc) for published videos or other 3rd party generated content.

Hiker
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Why only 15Mb/s?!?! Its look terrible! It looks like from 90's, not like from best action camera from 21 centry.

 

Editing video on mobile is dificult. Why mobile app can do better movie then app on much power PC?

When we can get update for Quik for desktop? 

 

Oryginal ... 

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Pic from Quik Crap for Desktop

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Please do something - Quik for Desktop is not usable in 2019!

I like this app and i want to use it daily for YT movies.

GoPro
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Re: Poor bitrate !!

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@jaroslawn86267, sorry but we currently do not have any information about new updates for Quik for Desktop app. We appreciate the insight as it can help us build a better experience with our products and applications. We'll relay this information to the team in charge.

Hiker
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Re: Poor bitrate !!

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I thnik its just empy words ... We will se ...

For now - Im disappointment like the other users of your desktop app.

 

Backpacker
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Re: Poor bitrate !!

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GoPro Quik for Mobile and Desktop are designed to create impressive looking short video's "quickly".  They are both designed to work on as wide a variation of platforms as possible and to work with many specs of pc's (including cheap underpowered models).  This is to allow as many people as possible to create and edit video's.  As a result, it is designed to be simple and quick to use.  It is not designed to be powerful or as a professional video editing suite.  As a result, it's not going to offer huge bitrates, professional color grading, etc.

 

If you are unhappy with this type of quick user friendly software and need more control over your video's or increased bit rates, then you need to look at using professional video editing software.  You can try DaVinci resolve which is free, or Adobe Premier Pro which you will have to pay a fee for.  There are also other video editors out there if you do a bit of research.  

Hiker
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GoPro Quik for Mobile and Desktop are designed to create impressive looking short video's "quickly"

 

IMPRESSIVE ?! REALY !? Did you see my example pics? Yes - Its very impressive! XD

 

I dont want to increase bitrate, i want my oryginal bitrate. Thats it!

I dont want more control, Quik for desktop if enough - but why such a low bitrate? Just add an option for older PC's. We have 2019r!

Why i cant prewiev my own movies with your software? (x265)

Why i cant add gauges on 4k/60?

Quik is such a crap that i cant beliewe that is product of GoPro - Its not PRO!  

Use other software is not an answer! I bought best action cam WITH SOFTWARE INCLUDED, and results are from 90's.

 

Thats it!

 

Just update the Quik and everybody will be happy. For now im still disapointed. GoPro is not pro.

Unfortunetly I cant return to the store. Meybe Dji has better software and support.

Backpacker
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IMPRESSIVE ?! REALY !? Did you see my example pics? Yes - Its very impressive! XD

Actually when talanted film makers put together short clips using Quik, the results can be very impressive indeed.  A camera (and finished film) is only as good as the operator.

 

I dont want to increase bitrate, i want my oryginal bitrate. Thats it!

Since you've made a point to complain about a 15m Bitrate output from the software, yes, yes you do want to increase the bit rate of the software output.  Another reason for the reduction in Bitrate is to lower the file sizes of the finished output so more people have the ability to upload said clips, even if living in an area with slow broadband or poor internet connection.  Creating projects with a finished output of 60m bit rate would result in fairly huge sizes with information not even needed or visible to the end user.  

 

I dont want more control,

Apparently you do, you want to be able to increase the bitrate....

 

Quik for desktop if enough - but why such a low bitrate? Just add an option for older PC's. We have 2019r!

Not everyone has a top of the line pc and most modern pc's are bought at a cheaper price and therefore have less capable hardware.  GoPro would have completed surveys on what the average user has in terms of hardware and made the best software possible to support the majority of it's users.

 

Why i cant prewiev my own movies with your software? (x265)

This is actually a Microsoft issue, they are the ones who removed support for HEVC from Windows 10 systems.  Also if you weren't so busy complaining you'd know that this is a user to user support forum, not GoPro techincal support.  So it's not actually my software...

 

Why i cant add gauges on 4k/60?

Because you lack the proper software to do so.

 

Quik is such a crap that i cant beliewe that is product of GoPro - Its not PRO!  

GoPro is primarly a camera company that makes prosumer camera's.  Their "Quik" software does not claim to be "pro" software, it's simply a "quick" and free option that allows people to make short clips using their camera.  If you want "Pro" software, pay for it.

 

Use other software is not an answer!

Yes it is, it's just not the answer that you want and apparently you find this very upsetting.

 

I bought best action cam WITH SOFTWARE INCLUDED, and results are from 90's.

So two points, software options are included for both mobile devices, Windows and Mac.  Just because you don't like the software doesn't mean it's bad software.  And actually the ability to use embedded meta data within a videostream to be applied to post production for GPS, Video Stabiliztion for prosumer useis actually from around the 2012 mark not the 90's.

 

Thats it!

I doubt it.

 

Just update the Quik and everybody will be happy.

No, you will be happy.  The majority of users who rely on this simple non resource intensive program would actually end up being very unhappy.  Maybe you should supply some data facts and figures to backup your claim on that one.

 

For now im still disapointed. GoPro is not pro.

GoPro certainly is pro, in this case it seems like a Picnic error and those are much harder to solve

 

Unfortunetly I cant return to the store. Meybe Dji has better software and support.

It may solve a lot of your issues for sure.  For instance, DJI doesn't have a GPS chip on their camera's, so you wouldn't have to deal with trying to put gauges on your 4K/60FPS clips or any clips for that matter.  There's also users asking about alternative free video editors that they can use.........   

Hiker
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Re: Poor bitrate !!

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Another one ... 

 

I dont want increase bitrate - i just want oryginal bitrate.

Im complaining only on output bitrate from Quik. 

I sad i like this software its realy quick, but results are very bad.

Just one simple option for bitarate.

 

You dont know what kind of operator i am, so dont be personal.

We are talking about software.

 

Many users complains for low bitrate.

Why gopro cant update their software?

 

 

 

 

Explorer
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Rendering at original bitrate would not be a good idea. Rendering video is one of the most intensive processes for a computer. Those that have decent video editing computer specs generally don't use Quik for desktop, but rather a proper non-linear editor. For those that don't have a powerful computer, which makes up the majority of GoPro owners, a simplified low bit rate render is best and will work, while a high bitrate might not.

There is also the issue of file size and also intended purpose for the video. The vast majority of GoPro users create Quik videos for sharing. Large fine sizes are not ideal for this and neither is high bitrate. Uploading at a higher bitrate than the hosting site's preferred level often results in the video getting re-rendered by the host, making the video worse. Interestingly, can you guess what bitrate YouTube wants HDR 1080p/60fps videos to be at? If you guessed 15Mbps (hmmm, same as Quik Desktop), then you are correct!

To be clear, the editing video portion of Quik is an add-on to the original desktop software (formally called Capture). The apps main purpose is not editing videos.

Now, with all of that being said, is Quik desktop app a great video editor? No, not by a long shot. Is it good? Well, this depends. If you just want an easy to create short montage video synced to music to share with friends and family (the intended purpose), then yeah, it's fine and performs this task pretty good. Anything else however, really requires the mobile Quik app, or a proper non-linear editor.

As far as to why GoPro hasn't improved the Quik desktop app. Well, we can't say for sure since we are just members of the forum and not GoPro employees with insider knowledge. However, pretty sure it has to do with two main factors.

#1 GoPro has been losing money for several years and has had to make severe staff cuts to stay afloat. They went from a staff of 1,552 employees in 2016 to less than 900 employees world wide. GoPro is a major CAMERA brand, but they've never been a very large company. So, of the 600+ employees that needed to be let go, who do you think it was, camera engineers or software engineers? If you guessed software engineers (and Karma), then you were correct! Kinda makes sense, considering they are a camera company and not a software company.

#2 GOPRO IS A CAMERA COMPANY AND NOT A SOFTWARE COMPANY (See above). While they do try very hard to produce innovative ways for their camera users to create and share videos, they are still primarily a camera company. Unlike almost ALL other camera companies, GoPro at least gives an option for those unable, or unwilling, to get/use a proper video editor created by an actual SOFTWARE company.

Does this mean GoPro has abandoned desktop software and won't be providing improvement? No, not by a long shot. In fact, GoPro is frequently posting job listings for desktop software engineers to help create and develop computer editing solutions for their customers. Who knows, we may even be seeing a brand new desktop app this year.
Hiker
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Re: Poor bitrate !!

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Here its another example

I just recorded timewarp and added gauges (ofcourse recorded in 1080p because Quik cant add gauges on 4K videos) end uploaded my movie on YT. Look at his great movie!

If enyone seens this movie they wont buy GoPro camera. Quality is terrible! I only added gauges.

Please GoPro - do something!

 

Watch this (sory for your bleeding eyes)

https://youtu.be/v_3BTpsykbE

Recorded in 1080p - gauges added in Quik for Desktop.
Sightseer
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Uselesss app.
GoPro
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Hello Everyone!

 

We have recently released an update for the GoPro app both on Android and iOS.

Please make sure to restart your phone before pairing it with the camera again.

Let us know how it goes.

 

Thanks!