01-05-2019 05:40 PM
Did i ever mentioned your name or used the word Liar???
i even narrowed it down to quote what you said & its written in black & white above. "the 7 has a lot of bugs,and people who say its a great camera are not 100% honest", no you didn't mention me by name but do believe i'm "a person" in which you made the generalisation. & how else do you interpret "not 100% honest"
No,i just say mostly people take the new gopro ,do a video and as long it look good for them they are happy,i guess thats you and its wonderful
where did you say any of that above, you didn't purely the short brief comment i've already quoted
i have the right to make the comparaison since i own 2 and the new 7 is not as good as i thought,i'll wait for the gopro 10 who will be great im sure
well done on having the Hero 4 to compare it against, & yes you've got the right to make your comparison against each other. I've also got more than 1 GoPro so can make comparisons, & i've got the right to say its a great camera without someone saying i'm not being 100% honest
01-05-2019 08:21 PM
Generalization, which easily can be interpreted as, "people who say it's a great camera are liars". If one is not honest, are they not a liar?
I say it's a great camera.
I am not a liar.
I own every GoPro HERO camera.
Picture and video quality, usability, stabilization, TimeWarm, SuperPhoto, HDR, RAW all better than HERO4.
01-05-2019 11:22 PM
Well since you own so many gopro,i just own the 4 and 7,take the same picture (to be fair no hdr/superphoto)with the 4 and the 7,on mine the 7 use all the time the 7 use higher iso(mode auto protune on or off) like 300 iso when the 4 is ok with 100,we know on those little camera the 100 iso will be a bit better but also the way (i dont think i want to force the 100 iso with protune on my 7)the way 4 treat the image i feel its more natural,better definition,may its my problem not affecting anybody...video yes the 7 is better,also as soon i opened the 7 (firmware1.51)i got freeze(a lot),needed to take off the battery and put it back to make it work again,with the new one 1.61 not as much but still,so your 3 hero 7 never freezed?
01-06-2019 02:18 AM
You can't rule out SuperPhoto and HDR to make a case that a camera without these features is better. It's precisely because of these features the HERO7 Black is much better.
So, you agree video quality is better, SuperPhoto and HDR clearly make photos better, Hypersmooth Stabilization vs non-existant stabilization is obviously better, waterproof without a case, zoom, 4K/60fps, 2.7K/120fps, 1080p/240fps, selective light metering, live streaming, rear LCD that allows you to see the effects of your changes as you make them, faster WiFi transfer, voice activation, better rolling shutter, Wind reduction audio, Protune RAW audio, face and scene detection, auto color correction under water without a filter, better dynamic range, more shutter speeds, GPS, more WB options... Not sure what else I'm missing... But to continue trying to make a case for HERO4 (or any action camera) being better is just silly.
I'm done with this, as it's a pointless debate.
01-06-2019 03:34 AM
i agree on all that but personaly i dont use everything,the high speed frame 240 on 1080 is not for me,4K60 is a plus but if its to have the battery gone even faster id rather may be use that not often(but it can do it over the 4)i like the waterprooff without a case,but my point the 7 is a new camera, than the 4 an old one and i use 80% for picture(always carry a gopro with me) and the fact i find the picture quality better in the hero 4 bother me,hdr and super photo yes a plus but ,you need to take pictures without movement,so you canot use those on every scene.
The low light video,the 7 is behind the 4( the 4 is more natural,i got this purple high noise in some case with the 7 i didnt have with the 4),all what i say is not only me who complain about that,if you read this forum im not the only one
But of ourse the 7 bring lot of new feature including this great hypersmooth,but judging a camera only on that (just look on the yotube review,lot of them just focus on that great stabilisation)
I was expecting a real gap in picture and video quality between my old one and the new one i dont find.
01-06-2019 11:28 PM
And just because yours is flawless and makes you happy, doesn't mean it's a great camera. There is a TON of horrid stories out there on this model from unbiased reviewers who don't get paid to push this product, or get free products, and invited to events to say good things about GoPro. As a matter of fact, a lot of the bad Ive read came from this site. People are very frustrated with this company for releasing a new model, when the 6 still hasn't been corrected, only to find out 7 is having the same problems. Sounds like a shady company to me. People want and enjoy the hypersmooth, but consumers also want reliability and trust in a company and it seems GoPro is losing a lot of its loyal customers. Search the threads, look on youtube, read articles about how this model is GoPros last chance to redeem their self after the problematic 6. I like to weigh the pros and cons on most anything I purchase, that's why I asked.
With that said, I chose to get the 7 black and will draw my own conclusion about this product and experiences with this company