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Hiker
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Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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I just purchased a number of GoPro Hero 7 Silver's to specifically use the photo time-lapse functionality. This was an excellent feature that I had used on both the GoPro Hero 5 Black and the GoPro Hero 7 Black. With the 0.5 second interval and GPS enabled, it is an excellent way to collect street-level imagery.

 

To my horror, the Silver does not have this functionality. I should definitely have paid more attention, but I'm also very surprised it is not included.

 

  • Is the exclusion of this feature just a means of differntiating their product line up? Silver seemed like a better camera than the Hero 5 Black, so I assumed it would support this functionality.
  • Are we likely to see this feature added down the track in a firmware update?
  • Is there anyone else at their lamenting the exclusion of this feature?
GoPro
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Thank you for the feedback, @foggysurf46255 . There is currently no information regarding adding the photo time-lapse mode to the HERO7 Silver features. We will definitely pass this along to the team. Best regards!

Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Thanks for the quick response @ikermuris. If this could be added in a firmware update it would be massively appreciated.

Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Did the team say whether this is something they can incorporate into the firmware? All the cameras I have purchased are useless for me at the moment without timelapse photo mode.

GoPro
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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@foggysurf46255 We have not heard from the team yet so we do not have new information at this time. 

Sightseer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Totally agree with @foggysurf46255 ,I bought a goproHero 7 for occasional use (because I'm not a professional video-maker or an extreme sportsman, so I should not need the black version) but when i realize the lack of functions I had to change my mind.
Buying the hero 7 in different versions from the Black is comparable to buy a product that is not flexible and not optimized, not an updated product and in step with the times and it is not worth to support a company that is not close to his customers.

Advice for new customers: it is much more useful to buy a previous Hero (like 5 or 6) in the black version then buy a newer product.

Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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@simonesan
HERO7 Black is priced higher than the Silver or White because it has more features. As far as comparing last years top of the line to this years mid and basic range devices, I agree that the HERO6 Black is a step above the HERO7 Silver or White, but not necessarily the HERO5 Black or HERO (2018). If stabilization doesn't matter and you don't need faster wi-fi transfer, Zoom, countdown timer for photos, and a slightly sharper image with better dynamic range, then yes, the HERO5 Black does have some more functions. But, that doesn't necessarily make it a better camera than the HERO7 Silver or even the White. It really comes down to the individual and what their needs are. Giving definitive advice over what device to get without taking into account that person's needs is worthless.

I have a HERO3 Black, HERO3+ Black, HERO4 Silver, HERO5 Black, HERO6 Black, and HERO7 Black. This Christmas I purchased a HERO7 White as a gift. Why? Because it was the best camera to suit the needs of the person I was purchasing it for. The HERO7 Silver and White are most certainly an update over previous GoPro cameras when it comes to ease of use, stabilization, and even picture quality at the same settings. It's always a bummer to make a purchase without taking the time to research all of the features and then finding what you need isn't available, but a comment like, " it is not worth to support a company that is not close to his customers" is just silly. GoPro is very actively involved with the market for their action cameras, has wide ranging Beta Tester Programs, and host special events to get feedback all the time. Perhaps the bigger problem is people forget that it's an action camera, and so is them that don't understand the market for which it is created for. Sure, GoPro cameras are incredibly versatile and can be used in just about any situation/environment, but it is an action camera first and foremost.
Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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I think everyone understands that higher priced products would have more features than their cheaper counterparts. What really frustrates me about this though is that it is an artifical limitation. They could easily make the Silver a better product but adding this functionality. It is software they have already developed and the hardware supports it.

Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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HERO7 Silver and White use entirely different hardware than any other GoPro camera.  It is not just software limitation.

Qualcomm APQ8053 Snapdragon 624: Octa-Core, 8x ARM Cortex A53 Up To 1.80 GHz.

APQ8053-Lite GoPro HERO7 White = Vision Intelligence 100
APQ8053-Pro GoPro HERO7 Silver = Vision Intelligence 200

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2018/10/22/qualcomm-and-gopro-collaborate-hero7-silver-and-wh...

Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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I understand the hardware is different, but the Silver is capable of photo time lapse from a hardware perspective. The Silver has video time lapse, which requires very similar processing to photo time lapse.

 

Thus the conversation becomes one of software and not hardware.

Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Of course, these are all assumptions on your end. I'm not saying it can or can't, but I certainly am not saying I know the engineering or capability of the processor and camera.
Sightseer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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This is mind boggoling. Good looking GoPro. Way to find a way to make more money and screw over your customers. There is no reason not to have photo-timelapse mode. Last time I'll invest in GoPro. 

Tourist
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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I’m pretty miffed at purchasing the Go Pro Hero 7 Silver only to find be same problem. Why bring out a camera without photo time lapse mode? You may as well purchase a Hero 5 which I also have. I feel like I’ve wasted my money Go Pro-it’s a con!
GoPro
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Hi @joeykemp

 

Each HERO7 cameras has its own features and was launched at different price points.

See: https://gopro.com/help/articles/block/introducing-hero7 for reference.

You may also check this article: Compare GoPro Cameras

 

 

Thanks!

Ej

Tourist
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Thank you but I did do my research actually and before Christmas there weren’t many videos/forums making this explicitly clear. I already have other Go Pros but feel the marketing of all 3 wasn’t clear
i.e. black, silver and white. The main differences were such as stabilisation but certainly not photo time lapse mode. I do feel misled as a customer on this and Go Pro should seek to update the software as others have said on this forum. I believe as customers it’s a small ask.
Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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It is literally in the tech specs for the camera https://shop.gopro.com/hero7-silver/tech-specs?pid=CHDHC-601-master and in the basic description of the camera, "Turn long events–like sunsets and birthday parties–into short, sharable moments with Time Lapse Video."

Nowhere in the marketing or camera description is there any indication or misleading statement about photo time lapse.
Tourist
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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I still totally disagree with you-it does not explicitly say what it does not include so how would you know unless you purchased it. I have no use for the 3 or 10 second photo timer-that’s something phones have nowadays as standard. They have definitely overhyped this and as others have said I would highly recommend the Hero 5
Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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You think it's standard for products to advertise what they CAN'T do?

HERO5 Black has more options, but straight out of the camera, the HERO7 Silver and White look much better and have much better stabilization.
Tourist
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Hmm..with respect, I’ll repeat my comment around marketing. These were marketed together at the same time. It was not clear, still isn’t clear so yes I still blame the way the 3 products were/are marketed. Given I’m not the only one to complain about this I suggest you look at the other forums with the same thread. I am perfectly entitled to air my views on here-customers buy inti the brand and something different. My phone has some if the same basic functions.
Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Would be interesting to do similar firmware experiments with the GoPro Hero 7 Silver: https://gethypoxic.com/blogs/technical/latest-gopro-hero-is-actually-a-gopro-hero5

Tourist
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Thank you-this is very interesting! Proves the points being made around marketing 👍
Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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HERO7 Silver and White are completely different from previous GoPro cameras.  They use a Qualcomm processor that was developed specifically for these cameras: APQ8053-Lite GoPro HERO7 White = Vision Intelligence 100 APQ8053-Pro GoPro HERO7 Silver = Vision Intelligence 200

 

The HERO (2018) and HERO5 Black prove nothing about points being made around marketing and there is no similarity between those cameras and the HERO7 Silver/White or with the HERO7 Black.

Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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You've missed the point completely.

The point being that the GoPro Hero 7 Silver could have Time Lapse photo mode if they updated the firmware. They choose not to and it's most likely for product differentiation.

Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Well that's a pretty obvious point. Of course they choose to leave out features for product differentiation. My car could of had a sunroof, but the manufacturer (evil bastards that they are) expect me to pay more for it, so they didn't include it! The Injustice!
Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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BTW, you mentioned, "firmware experiments" and compared it to the HERO5/HERO (2018). How is it possible to do "similar" experiments? The HERO7 Silver is the first and top model with these components (which I pointed out).

The HERO (2018) used the same components as the HERO5 Black, which is what led to people hacking it. Maybe when the HERO8 cameras come out you might be able to do something with the HERO7, or maybe put the HERO7 Silver firmware in a HERO8 White (if they make one and it uses the same components). But, there is no similarity or hope of doing something like was done with the HERO5/HERO (2018).

Next time, just read the tech specs more carefully before purchasing your next electronic device.
Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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False equivalence.

A better example would be a car manufacturer selling you a car with a sunroof while leaving out the software to operate it.
Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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My comment was simply stating that it would be interesting to see what is possible with the GoPro Hero 7 Silver from a firmware perspective.

And yes, agree I should have read on the tech specs more carefully. I said this in my opening post.
Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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"car manufacturer selling you a car with a sunroof "
No, because the HERO7 Silver doesn't do time lapse photo. If it did, and you could change to this mode, but where unable to press record, then your analogy would be similar.

However, the HERO7 Silver does not have time lapse photo "installed" (just like my car doesn't have a sunroof installed).

I'm glad you agree that it was your responsibility to read the tech specs before purchasing, but with that being understood, what is this whole thread and our going back and forth all about?

Yes, GoPro released three cameras, all with different capabilities.

Yes, the pricing structure and features were designed to encourage the purchase of the higher end model.

Yes, while the HERO7 Silver and White do have better stabilization, and videos do look better straight out of the camera, they were not marketed or meant to be upgrades to the HERO5 Black and most certainly not an upgrade to the HERO6 Black. The upgraded BLACK model was/is the HERO7 Black.

Yes, the HERO7 White/Silver are designed for simplicity and first time GoPro camera buyers. Adding features or more options like time lapse photo that is not automatically converted into a video goes against the design philosophy of these two camera models.

Yes, you are welcome to want or wish for more options, but if they were important to you, you also had/have the option of purchasing the feature rich Black model.
Tourist
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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That’s the whole point though isn’t it-I’m sure if we had known they would have got us purchasing a Hero 7 Black!! I am not a first time Go Pro user. The white actually was marketed for first time users and I didn’t buy the black as I have a gimbal for my 5. It is down to marketing. The repetitive marketing about hyper smooth was every day on my social media feed. I researched it incredibly well but you don’t expect a newer Go Pro to have setting you get on a basic phone. I won’t ever change my view on this.
Explorer
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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Hypersmooth was never marketed as a feature of the HERO7 Silver or White. Mostly because those cameras don't have Hypersmooth. In fact, they are listed as having "Standard" stabilization. On the GoPro main page there is, and has always been, a link for comparing all the cameras.
Hiker
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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The point of this thread and the comments by myself and others is a criticism of GoPro's marketing and decision making on pricing and product differentiation.

 

I think my comment on the sunroof still stands. They included the hardware that would support time-lapse photo, but did not add the software to make it a reality. Companies limit access to software features all the time for product differentiation, I get that, but it's less common in hardware. I just disagree with their decision making on this particular feature and think it's absolutely fair game to start a thread on it and see what others think.

 

For the reasons I stated earlier, I think this should be a standard feature on the mid-priced GoPro that GoPro sells for $449.95 AUD. I hope others feel the same and make it clear a firmware update would be much appreciated to include this feature. If the earlier GoPro support team answer was anything to go by, they have passed this onto the team.

 

Tourist
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Re: Photo time-lapse on the GoPro Hero 7 Silver. Likely addition?

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I didn’t say hyper smooth was ever marketed on the silver and white. I said it was marketed as the main difference between the three. You have not understood my post. Bottom line I did not pay a large amount of money for a newer Go Pro to have less features than an older model and as I seem to repeat on every post, the functions of a basic phone. There are plenty of posts on the Go Pro forum complaining about the same thing.