03-21-2018 10:12 PM
I am looking to purchased a used GoPro to mount on my kids (6 & 8 years old) ski helmet.
I don't need the latest and greatest.
I see in the SF bay area there are alot of GoPros on craigslist and it seems like they are not selling. What models shoudl I be looking at, I don't want something too old nor do I need the latest and greatest and not sure I need 4K. What models should I persue and which should I avoid?
Once I get one if it doesn't come with a helmet mount I guess I will need two helment mounts if I want to move the camera back and forth between my two kids. What are my options here in terms of mounts. Do I need to purchase a GoPro mount or are there aftermarket more cost effective solutions?
03-21-2018 11:12 PM
Cameras to avoid:
Hero3 Black/Silver/White: Poor battery life, limited resolution/frame rates, old style Protune offering fewer options and requires color grading in post editing.
Hero3+ Silver/White: Basically just the Hero3 Black and Silver. (Hero3+ Black is OK)
Hero, Hero+, Hero+LCD: These were basically throw away cameras permanently infused into the waterproof housing killing any hope of decent audio. Not terrible but once you have an issue or problem there is absolutely nothing you can do. Scratch the housing lens and that's it. A common reported problem was when the housing mounting arms would break making the camera unable to be mounted. Since the camera was stuck in the housing, you couldn't replace it.
First release Hero5 Session (used models only): The first batch of Hero5 Session cameras had a higher rate of complaints from freezing/overheating. If someone is selling their Hero5 Session, chances are they have one of these.
Top to Bottom Best cameras:
Hero6 Black - far and away the best GoPro camera. If you get this camera you will use this camera in ways you aren't thinking of now. Beautiful picture, amazing stabilization, great photos, time laps, night photos, night laps, ZOOM, fast video transfer to mobile devices, Quik Story compatible, Auto cloud uploading, very good low light (with latest update), wide range of resolution/frame rate possibilities, voice activation, good audio, waterproof without a case, GPS, selective light metering, Auto burst photo mode, Auto shutter with ISO 100, and with a clear, easy to use rear LCD. You pay more, but you end up getting a camera you can actually use for more than just your ski trips.
Hero5 Black - Similar to Hero6 Black with many of the same feautres, BUT... Video quality is not as good, less resolution/frame rate options, 2 axis stabilization that is good for shake but nothing close to the Hero6, no Auto Shutter with ISO100, no Auto Burst mode, fewer voice commands, slower Wi-Fi transfer of media, slightly less responsive LCD touch screen, poorer audio, no ZOOM, and some reported complaints of waterproofing without case giving out.
Hero5 Session - Great little camera that is durable, discrete, and gives wide range of resolutions/frame rates including 4K/30. Earlier batches seemed to have more reported issues but later runs seem fine. I use this camera almost as much as my Hero6 Black. Great waterproofing and nearly indestructible. It also works with QuickStory for the mobile app and has Auto Cloud updating.
From here it depends on your wants/needs. For a simple no frills camera that is durable and gets good audio and video, the Session (Hero4) is great and my number 4 favorite and used camera.
For very good video and audio with the camera out of the housing, not waterproof and vulnerable to damage, then the Hero4 Black. Great camera if you know how to use Protune and use outside the waterproof housing or in the frame. Inside the waterproof housing audio is unusable.
Hero4 Silver: Basically a Hero3+ Black with a rear LCD. Same issue of needing to be out of the housing for decent audio. Most frequent complaint is a helicopter "thumping" noise that comes through in the video recordings when Wi-Fi is used.
The Hero3+ Black: A great camera for it's time but there are much better options at around the same price. You have to use it in a housing if you want to keep it safe, which completely ruins audio and the video quality isn't as good as the Hero4 Black.
Mostly, when looking on sites like Craigslist you are going to see cameras from the do not buy list. There is a reason for this. Most of the cameras on the Best cameras list can be found, but not at cheap prices. There is a reason for this as well.
If you want to keep your camera safe, only use GoPro mounts and accessories. The 3rd party brands are cheap junk and break easily.
Hope this helps.
03-21-2018 11:14 PM - edited 03-21-2018 11:16 PM
Just to follow up, if it wasn't clear from everything I wrote above. The Session is the best camera for you and your kids if you aren't able to wait for the new budget friendly GoPro to be released.
It's the camera my kid is holding in my picture avatar. He's 2yr and knows how to use it (no joke)
03-26-2018 08:51 PM
As far as helmet mount, there is one for the Session and one for the Hero5/Hero6 in the GoPro web store. The Hero5/Hero6 mount will work with any camera. The Session helmet mount comes with a special frame for the Session cameras.