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Nomad
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More Detail Tutorial on HOW to USE PROXY Workflow for any computer to EDIT 4K Video Footage.

 

Backpacker
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The proxy route is all well and good ONLY if your current editor supports the HVEC file for the final render.

Explorer
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It's all good information and thanks for sharing, but some clarification (or at least an asterisk) is needed when stating, " garanty to work for any computer".

There are system requirements for running Adobe Premiere Pro
https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/system-requirements.html

And it should be noted that Adobe Premiere Pro is a pretty pricey option that does have a bit of a learning curve to master.
Nomad
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It DOES support HVEC the Premiere Pro CC 2018 automatic install the CODEC from ADOBE into your computer and open up my footage you need to link to proxy than render and hit the play button or glide the player you will see how smooth your footage will perform on your screen.

Nomad
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Well for PEOPLE who want FREE STUFF... sorry even you have the most expensive system when you final upload it to youtube it will look like CRAP, why most people from YOUTUBE when they teach how to edit they only USE Adobe Premiere Pro there is some reason why they use ADOBE doesn't matter if you own a PC or a MAC.

 

What You See Is What You Get... I understand Noel Fustration I seen lot of first time GoPro Users sale their HERO5 or HERO6 on everywhere Facebook Marketplace and OfferUp because after their first experience with the Camera they don't know what to do with their FOOTAGE than they don't have any clue about EDITING because they saw all those videos marketing with awesome videos on youtube base on that they made their decision to become GoPro User.

 

And some people here including myself we know how to edit videos but for those who don't you have to learn the hard way go on youtube watch and learn.

 

Good Luck. 

Backpacker
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@alexl8465 Not to be rude, but do you have any idea what codec prores is, and what Blackmagic DaVinci resolve software is?

 

Adobe Premiere Pro CC is all good and well but it costs a lot of money.

 

The only way your footage will look bad is if you have an inability to process it accordingly.

Anonymous
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Daniel perfect words! I'd share a beer with you now if I could! I dont see anything as overly defensive its purely comunication and getting to a reasonable point that makes sense. Everything you are typing might as wel come out of my mouth if I had the life you had it all fits perfect and I thing what you told me would help allot of people as well reading this now. Just wish gopro staff had this hands on help with customers. But none the less Im going to explore your suggestions and let you know! Dell is my first choice aswell I have been looking at them for over a year know, maby you just pushed me over the edge!

Explorer
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Premier's advantage is its integration with the other Adobe products. When it comes to color grading and editing DaVinci Resolve is either better or on par with Premiere. For someone just looking for video editing, I think DaVinci Resolve is a much better option, and not just because it's free. Which is a huge Plus!

Like I've said, I use Adobe Premiere Pro. However, I wouldn't recommend it over DaVinci Resolve unless the user has specific needs that they can't get with Resolve. One said reason would be if the person owns the Fusion camera (my new favorite GoPro that I'm having a blast using and find more than worth the cost).

For someone doing just basic editing Adobe Premiere Pro is a huge waste of money. DaVinci Resolve is a professional editing software and can give you great results.

Explorer
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@Anonymous
Thanks for the kind words and taking the time to reply. All my best to you my friend.
Anonymous
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I agree. For serious editing Davinci comes just a little bit too short in comparison with premiere. But for basic editing, definitely go with davinci. Just a few more years and even very serious video editors can migrate to davinci.

 

Backpacker
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I have to disagree, i all but dumped Adobe a few years back since davinci moved on from a colourist suite to a full suite. BUT thats when a shoot Cinema Raw. I agree premiere is better for quick cuts and speed ramps, but for working with the intended format ie prores or raw premiere cant touch davince for speed. 

 

Again as for gopro footage if you are willing to subscribe to Adobe then go with that, you cant go wrong.

Anonymous
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What I mean is that Da Vinci comes a bit short to Premiere as an editing application. Da Vinci doesn't offer me all the tools I need for video editing (just yet) but I think they are making huge leaps with every update to be a very very serious competitor for adobe. But performance wise, Da Vinci outperforms Premiere. Da Vinci handles footage in a way that should make adobe embarresed in every way. 

Hiker
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Just remeber that Resolve is more hardware intensive than most of the other NLE out there. Getting better all the time. Huge knowalge base and lots og good youtube tutorials.  

I buily a hefty rig for r\Resolve and still get a bit f lag when scrubbing native gopro files. If I'm doing a longer project. I'll transform to DNxHR/HD or Cineform. So much smoother editing. Worth the time. 

On my older laptop (Asus UX31VD) i7, Nvidia, 10GB ram, ssd)  I use an older verion of vegas. 4K transformed in studio to cineform, smooth as butter. Resovle will hardly start up.....

   

Anonymous
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Exactly
Anonymous
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Hi Daniel here is the Laptop option I have. See the specs I'll include a 256SSHD aswell. I wont hold you to it but what do you think of the specs?

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Anonymous
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It's Gigabyte Notebook
Explorer
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Looks good 👍😉
Backpacker
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I don’t disagree with what you say but remember we are talking free software that vastly outperforms paid software if you use the correct source codec and a half way decent computer. Premiere still requires a decent computer and I have noticed an issue with the output in premiere cc 2018 I want to revisit before I say what it is.

Anonymous
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Hi, about the Laptop Specs Im about to purchase, what is the odds that it wont work with HEVC files? 4K60fps or 1080p240fps?

Backpacker
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Hi, the laptop you describe has plenty of power providing your editor always uses the performance Nvidia card and not the power saver gpu.

 

It should not be a worry though, i am confident it will work 100%

Backpacker
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I was just thinking about all this and you do know that all new intel cpu’s from the last few years have hardware hvec decoding built in don’t you?

 

You must enable onboard gpu in your bios though. It also lets you encode from hvec to h.264 with a speed boost if you use handbrake and enable intel speed sync in handbrakes settings.

 

As a side note whilst new NVIDIA GPUs have an onboard decoder/encoder for hvec you will always get better results using just your cpu. Where as Premiere and Resolve will ignore this ASIC and rely on CUDA and the CPU to boost performance. 

 

That being said my pc is due an update and I will probably go for just the Nvidia 1050ti 4 or 6gb as the encoding asic is exactly the same silicon as the 1060 and above.

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Anonymous
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Hi, I have a problem. So I bought the laptop and installed DaVinci Resolve 14 but I still can not see video in my files. 4k60fps and 1080p240fps PLEASE what am I missing?

 

Anonymous
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The video's show up as audio only, exact same problem.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Well I see the free version of DR 14 does not support hevc.
Hiker
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That the clue unfortunaltly. Same with Premiere, got to have the full creative licence for it to work. 

I haven't got a 6 yet. but I think peole are having sucsess with useing http://www.myffmpeg.com/index.html to transcode to a useable format. 

However I don't think Resolve does 240fps regardless. 

Maybe cheak out the Resolve forum here: https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewforum.php?f=21

 

Anonymous
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Yeah, I am having the same issue, I have critical footage in 240fps specifically so that I could take advantage of the slow mo, and I can't use it.

I really don't want to upload to youtube, lose the fps, and the download, that defeats the purpose.


I am using hitfilm express.

 

Super disappointed at this point.

Hiker
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ye, a bit disapointing that there are cams with highframerates, but no editors that can handle it. 

I would convert to 120 and see how it goes with slowing down, it shouldbe really good anyway.

Better to do something with the footage while the software houses play catch up. 

Here is a link to other hitfil users experiences
https://fxhome.com/forum/discussion/43262/crashing-when-importing-a-240fps-file

 

Anonymous
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Hi Daniel, this is really good advice. After reading your input here about using the Hero6 in 4K mode. I believe my laptop is definitely not capable of this 4K setting for editing, it wont play them when I copy and I haven’t tried the handbrake conversion etc.
My last Gopro was the 3 and I'm getting very lost in all of the new options with the Hero6. In saying this, what settings would you recommend for me to get the best out of my new camera but still be able to edit effectively? I mainly use my Gopro for fishing with a head mount. Is the stabilization an important factor to consider with my type of activities? I notice it isn't available in some of the video modes.
Any advice would be really appreciated, I'm trolling through lots of discussion and you seem to be on the money and may be able to help me. Thanks in advance, I take off on my next trip on Saturday, first run with the new cam!
Explorer
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I'm currently working on a project comparing the different settings to show the benefits and disadvantages of each setting. It's a much bigger endeavor than I originally thought considering all the different options and scenarios for when and why to make these changes. So far; however, the most consistently "best" setting is camera defaults, 2.7K/60. If you put the 2.7K video into a 1080p sequence and scale down to 71-72% it looks great and you are able to crop/zoom as needed. I shoot in Wide FOV and correct the lens distortion as needed with my editor. Choosing Linear in the camera is fine, but will sometimes give you less detail at the edges.
Hiker
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coolsand84842, One thing people are forgetting in these day of better computers and the dimise of GoPro studio is the option of transcoding to a better editig format. 

H264 and H265 mp4 files are extremly compressed and will bring even hig performance computer to a stand still. 

Convert to cineform AVI (or DNxRH/HD) and you will be able to edit on a modest machine. 

Converting Gopro6 H265 with Handbrake to H264 is a waste of time, you are still stuck with a compressed non edit friendly format. 

I have an 5-6 year old i7 laptop with vegas. I can edit butter smooth 4K footage on it no problem, if I convert to avi in GP studio first. Native mp4 and it will just lock up. 

On my stationary PC, 6700K, 32 gp ram,  1080 8GB gfx, ssd watercooled wil edit native in Resolve, but on longer projects, I convert, so much smoother.


Anonymous
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Not sure if this has been said here already, but I found a solution that worked easily for me.

 

I just shot some 240fps 1080p footage on a Hero Black 6 and brought it into premiere. The footage importe with a framerate of 239.76 (or 10x 23.976). I right-clicked the clip in the project folder, selected Modify > Interpret Footage... and set the framerate to 23.976. Footage then showed up in Project folder with 23.976 framerate and played back accordingly in a 23.976 timebase timeline/sequence.  

 

Cheers!

Anonymous
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I am using Adobe Premier Pro CS6, Windows 10 on a custom built machine with 32GB of RAM, Gigabyte Geforce GTX1080 1GB video card.

 

When I try to import any of the 1080/240 or 2.7/120 video files to Premiere Pro I simply get an audio file, it seems to kill off the video file.

 

This is NOT something I was expecting to run into and is causing me some serious issues with editing as I CAN'T!

 

From what research I have done it seems it is something about GoPro HEro 6 recording AIFF audioinstead of ACC audio with HEVC codec for the videos ...

 

Can someone pelase help me!

Hiker
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There are so many varibles with witch version of premier can handle 240fps.
You will have to research a bit. Tonnes of stuff on the 240fps / HVEC problem. 

I would look at transcoding your footageage to AVI or DNXHD/HR. 

As for audio, GoPro HVEC is ACC, no question there. 

You say you have GTX1080 1GB, sure thats right? Only 1GB grafix card is going to give you problems regardless when running high frame rates and resolutions.  

Explorer
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It's got to be a typo.  I think it's supposed to read 10 GB.  I don't think they made a 1GB GTX 1080.  If they did, it's a complete waste.

Hiker
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Agree, got to be more than 1 GB Man Happy


Explorer
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I think this must be an issue with CS6. I think Premiere Pro CS6 is something like 6 years old and may just not work with HEVC. I have a GTC 1050 ti which is far less powerful than a 1080 and I'm able to handle Hero6 HEVC files without issues. Converting the files with Handbrake might be the best option.
Sightseer
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Dudes! this is what you want x265vfw_x64_v281_x265b160_12bit_20180624.exe

most importantly it has hardware acceleration and that is what you really want especially if you're using any kind of gtx 600 series graphics card or higher!unfortunately this does not help much with opening the 1080p 240fps .mp4 files in a VIDEO EDITOR that my gopro black 6 produced. but, hell it plays in win7 64 bit with mediaplayer classic now! and it actually runs faster with those than it does with win8 or win10 suprisingly. Remember having a SSD is a good thing as it will help with crapping out the framerates constantly. 240fps is honestly beast!!!also...if you happened to arrive here seeking help for x264 acceleration or problems opening those files look at this...https://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/files/x264vfw64/39_2453bm_40246/

if you look very carefully there is support for both 32 bit and 64 bit but seriously who uses 32 bit OS's anymore?

https://codecpack.co/download/x265vfw.html

 

my PC settings are

win 7 64 bit ultimate/win 8 64 bit /win8.1 64 bit /win10  64 bit/kali linux 32 bit

gtx 690

6600k CPU

Samsung evo SSD

16gb Evo potenza DDR4 ram

 

that is my help for you for x264 and x265 acceleration!

Sightseer
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Re: How to work with 1080p 240fps

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Hey, i had the same issue, finally got my problem solved after spending good 4-5 hours. I use adobe premiere pro cs6, was facing the same issue. 

Here's my full article,  see what i did:

https://topitguy.com/editing-my-gopro-1080-240fps-clip-premiere-pro-cs6/

GoPro
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Re: How to work with 1080p 240fps

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Hi @topitguy,

 

Thanks for sharing.

We'll check it.