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Sightseer
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High School Water Polo - Help Approach

Hello, my son has asked me to record his high school water polo matches - so he can create film for college recruiters to see.  I have a Hero7 Black and have discovered that if I record in 4K, I can capture the entire pool and there is enough resolution to create clips, zoom in and reduce the resolution to 1080p.  The great thing is I clip the camera to the back fence and don't have to move it back and forth.  Each quarter is 7 minutes long and I discovered that using the iPhone app drains the battery very quickly and I need to change the battery each quarter.  I got the smart remote and using the smart remote, the battery lasts greater than twice as long - which is great!  OK, so here are the 2 issues that I have and I'm hoping someone can guide me to the best solution...

  1. I don't keep a battery in the camera, so the camera resets the date to 1/1/2016.  Using the smart remote, instead of the iPhone app, the date doesn't update when you turn on the camera.  What is the best way of getting the camera to have the right date before each game?
  2. Using the smart remote, I can see what the camera will capture when I mount it to the fence.  I would love to briefly use the iPhone app, see what the camera is capturing and then switch over to the smart remote so the batteries will last longer.  Is there any easy way of switching between the smart remote and the iPhone app and still having the battery last longer?  I believe the smart remote is using WiFi and when I launch the iPhone app it indicates that BlueTooth isn't enabled.  Should I have the iPhone app connect via BT?

Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.  The Hero7 Black is an OK camera but still shuts down when it gets too hot sitting in the sun (with the correct/recommended memory card) which has been very frustrating - I'm actually surprised the hardware and software isn't a lot better at this point to be completely honest.

GoPro
Posts: 8,334

Re: High School Water Polo - Help Approach

Hello @lithecave87. Simply removing the battery from the camera for a recording hours long should not change the date of the camera. A manual update will fix the issue you observed. The steps under Manual Update here  will walk you through the process. 

 

Bluetooth requires less energy than Wi-Fi to connect the GoPro App to your camera. In the current implementation, the Bluetooth is used only for "waking the camera up" from a low power wireless state.  After waking up the camera, you still need the camera to connect to the mobile device via Wi-Fi for any additional functionality (preview, start/stop, mode changing, etc.). 

 

The camera and mobile app use both technologies in different contexts.  Wi-Fi is still used for connect and control, preview, etc. Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) is used for initial set-up and staying connected with camera.  The GoPro App can "wake up the camera" over BLE. 

Explorer
Posts: 12,213

Re: High School Water Polo - Help Approach

@lithecave87
Removing the battery is recommended, and you are correct, if it is left out for a few days the date/time will reset. You can go into preferences in the pull down menu of the camera and reset the date/time. However, it's much faster to just connect to your phone briefly. While the app should auto correct the date/time, I like to go into the camera settings in the app, scroll down to date/time, and then tap it to ensure it's synced to my phone's date/time.

I've actually never tried to connect to the phone app and Smart Remote at the same time, but I suspect only one device can be connected and controlling the camera. Since BT is used to initiate the connection (via Wi-Fi) it does need to be on, on your phone.

For your situation, I would set the camera up and connect to the app on your phone. Frame your shot and ensure the date/time are correct. Turn off the camera using the app and then put your phone into airplane mode (to ensure that the phone & camera aren't trying to communicate with each other). Pair up the Smart Remote (most likely already done), and take your phone out of airplane mode if you wish. Record the way you have been, and it should work out fine.

BTW, My son also plays water polo for his high school and I record with my HERO6 and HERO7 (each on opposite sides of the pool) using the Smart Remote as well.

Good luck to your son!