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Hero 3 Black or 7 White for 200$?

Hi, as it's just before Christmas, I need sth for my son.

He uses Hero3 Black which I bought him back in 2013.

My budget is 200$ and I wonder if Hero 7 White is any better than his old Hero 3 Black? Or Hero (2018 edition)? Or Hero 5 Session?

I can't find any comparison of latest gear with such an old one. Which one has better 'optics', 'sensor' etc.?

Adventurer
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Re: Hero 3 Black or 7 White for 200$?

  is  the battery important?   white is non-removable

  is the lens protecto r important, white is non-removable

  is the rsolution higher then HD1080P important, 

 For your Son I am sure   the choice you make will do fine.

 

Tourist
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Re: Hero 3 Black or 7 White for 200$?

Battery isn't very important as long as it's able to record HD for at least 30-40 minutes. His drone doesn't fly longer anyway.

Resolution higher than 1080p isn't as important as FPS to do shots in slow motion.

Lens protector...yeah that could be replacable ;)

Adventurer
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Re: Hero 3 Black or 7 White for 200$?

i look into a Hero 6 black, and pay the extra few dollars. then to get a Her 7 white, if asked that would be probably the best option

 

 Hero 5 black the sound people  around cry about but honestly I find that as well a great camera to. so hero 5 or hero 6   good luck  own them both

Adventurer
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Re: Hero 3 Black or 7 White for 200$?

By far the HERO7 White is a better option. If he's just going to be going out and grabbing fun videos, it's a great camera. With the HERO7 White you get stabilized video, the ability to zoom, selective light metering, and a Rear LCD. The audio is going to be much better since you don't need to put the camera into a protective case and if he wants Quik Story videos automatically created for him, the HERO7 White has fast WiFi transfer and auto creation of videos. I own just about every GoPro made from the HERO HD (2010) to the HERO7 Black, including both Session cameras and the camera I got for my middle child is the HERO7 White. If your son doesn't need 4K, an external mic, or to be able to go more than 30 feet under water, then this is a good camera.

However, with that being said, what will he be using the camera for? How old is he? And will he be disappointed getting the most basic model?

Stabilization makes a world of difference in producing great videos, so unless he has a gimbal that can mount the HERO5 (Black or Session), I personally can't recommend them. They do have some stabilization, but it's so minor you're often left wondering if it's on or not.

Hero3 Black is an ok model, and has more resolutions and higher frame rates available. The negative is it's vulnerable without it's housing, drains battery really fast, doesn't have as good of picture quality as the HERO7 cameras, and has poor audio made worse when put in the housing. However, it does have Protune, and if he has the right adapter, can use an external mic.

The HERO5 Session is great for being small, has 4k, and is crazy durable. Some models have issues (first batch) but the later cameras worked great. Picture is pretty good but not as clean as HERO5/6/7 Black/White/Silver. It is better than HERO6 Black in just about every way. Negative: no swappable battery, no LCD screen, picture quality is good, but not quite what the newer cameras give, stabilization isn't great.

HERO (2018) is a dumbed down HERO5 Black. For tech savvy you can flash HERO5 Black firmware so I'll skip to HERO5 Black.

HERO5 Black is a great camera and if it had better stabilization I'd recommend it. It doesn't have zoom capability or fast WiFi transfer, but it pretty much does the rest. The image straight out of the camera isn't as good as HERO6 Black or the HERO7 cameras (White, Silver, Black) but over all it's a very good camera. Problem is stabilization. With the Karma Grip it's a great camera, but that's another $200-$300.

Check around for the HERO6 Black. You might be able to find it in your price range. The HERO6 Black has the same great stabilization of the HERO7 Silver and White (it can sometimes be a little more jerky but overall it's really good) and it has almost all the features of the HERO7 Black.
Tourist
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Re: Hero 3 Black or 7 White for 200$?

Wow that's a great answer. Thank you very much!

I think I'll take this 7 White or look for 6 Black then. Thanks!

 

Just a quick question: so Hero 7 White doesn't have a Protune mode while Hero 3 Black does? And without it video quality of Hero 7 White is still better than Hero 3 Black in Protune?

Adventurer
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Re: Hero 3 Black or 7 White for 200$?

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That's kind of a "depends" situation. The Protune on HERO3 Black isn't the same as on the newer camera. Straight out of the camera and without color grading, Protune on the HERO3 Black looks pretty bad, flat, and ugly. However, it increases the dynamic range, or log curve, allowing for more detail in shadows. The lens and sensor are older and not as good however, so even with color grading, it's very difficult to even match the newer GoPro cameras with Protune off. The bit rate on the HERO3 is also very low so there is less detail in each pixel. On HERO6 and HERO7 Black you have more than twice the bit rate with Protune on, and the image is process in camera for vibrant colors and increased gain. You can also turn off the color processing on the newer Black cameras for improved flexibility when editing.

If your son has a decent editor and liked making his own videos, the HERO6 Black is the best "cheaper" option. If that's still out of your price range, consider the HERO7 Silver (if you have an old digital camera with an original price of $100 or more you can check and see if it qualifies for trade in saving you an addition $100).

Unless you think he will want Protune, and compatibility with Karma, Smart Remote, sperate external microphone, and Super Suit, AND he's good with 1440p and 1080p at 30fps and 60fps(for slow motion) the HERO7 White a is much better than HERO5 because of the stability, zoom, countdown timer for photos, clip length options, and faster WiFi.

If you think he might want 4K, GPS, and the features of the White, then the Silver is the best option.

If a score of 10 is the absolute best, I would score the cameras like this:

HERO7 Black 10
HERO6 Black 8.5
HERO7 Silver 7
HERO7 White 5
HERO5 Session 4 (size and durability put it ahead of Black)
HERO5 Black 3.75 (7.5 with Karma)
HERO (2018) 3.5 (you can flash firmware to make it a HERO5)
HERO3 Black 0.5

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Re: Hero 3 Black or 7 White for 200$?

Rather go into great detail: 1/2.3 sensor  kept the same.    

 

Hero 4 Silver

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADB45UW7549&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&c...

 

Not going to make a big speach and all. but if you do not like it you have an extended return  Wal-mart also haas it   so take a look  less headaches if asked.

 

FISH     remember one thing the 1/2.3rd sensor and sony been in this  for a long long time only thing that improved was the lens went up one class and sound improved. once you get to the Hero 5 and hero 6 you are fighting sound.  lets not forget you won't have to dish out 50-60.00 for a external mic .