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Hiker
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Gopro Fusion - First impressions - PROs & CONs and requests

Hi everyone.
I got the Fusion some days before and was able to do some tests now.
The PROs:

  • Image quality is good.
  • Stitching is very good - for me the most important thing. - Also very close objekts were handled very well.
  • Running time (approx. 70min) is enough and it's possible to run it without battery via USB-C-power. Good for long sesions and good for the battery because it could be prevented by heat.
  • The image stabilization feature is impressive
  • Display with light! Yes!

The CONs (momentary)

  • The support was not able to give me an answer of the filesize of a videoclip. (???) - The answer by the way: 2 x 64GB are able to store 2h30min of video (5,2k/25fps) with Protune Off and 1h57h with Protune On.
  • There is no possibility to set the whitebalance manually (what!?)
  • The file size of the final rendered videos is ... BIG! Each cam records with approx. 60MBit/sec and produces ~ 450MB/min onto a single card. The rendered (stitched) cineform-codec-file will grow to 3,2GB. For archival purposes it's better to keep the original files only.
  • Rendering-time: on my i7-Desktop machine with a GTX980ti-graphiccard one minute will take maybe 4 minutes (download from camera included) - My brandnnew Gigabyte-Notebook Aero X15 (i7-7700HQ / GTX1070) needs approx. 40(!) minutes. The CPU is just used with 30-40% load. An issue of the Studio-Software I think.
  • I'm not sure if the camera-case is the best solution. I will built a case which will garantuee that the lenses will not have any contact to anything.
  • The plug-in for Premiere Pro is working basically well, but it's not perfect with the interpolation of the keyframes, specially with ease in and out.

Requests:

  • Manual whitebalace, please! - Everything manually, please!
  • The possibility to import the Photo-RAW-files via Fusion Studio. Manual search on the cards you have to eject and put them in a reader is very uncomfortable.
  • ... and yes: the android-app is missing. - My "old" IPad4 is not working with the Gopro-app. Maybe because it's not possible too upgrade to IOS11? - Fusion is listed, but it's not working.

That's it so far.

Revolutionary product.

 

Greetings

GoPro
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Re: Gopro Fusion - First impressions - PROs & CONs and requests

Hi @marksteffe482,

 

Thank you for sharing! I will make sure to get this post over to our Fusion Team!

 

Cheers,

Ryan

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Tourist
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Re: Gopro Fusion - First impressions - PROs & CONs and requests

Here are my first impressions / pro’s and con’s…

 

Pro’s

  • The camera finally arrived
  • I am positive that this is all going to work out

Con’s

  • Ordering the camera was a total nightmare
  • I charged the battery Monday after I got the camera and then put it up till I had some time to work with it. When I took it out tonight, the battery was dead (like 0% charge, dead).
  • Support has not actually provided me any support at this point. They just keep passing me off to other people. Or telling me I must wait on this or that.(That includes the support I was dealing with while trying to order the camera, as well.)
  • There is not away currently to charge the battery (or batteries) other than in the camera.
  • I am really wanting to say something awesome about all of this, but at this point it has just been an unpleasant experience.

 

That is my list. The reality of all of this is that I expected some hiccups and I know that is all this is. Though, I did not expect all the challenges with ordering the camera. (sorry, that all sounds bad. I am pretty certain that I am the 1 in 1,000 or more that is having a few issues.)

GoPro
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Re: Gopro Fusion - First impressions - PROs & CONs and requests

Hey All,

 

Fusion Android compability is now live for GoPro App v4.2.

 

Head over and check out the post here: https://community.gopro.com/t5/GoPro-Apps-for-Mobile/GoPro-App-ANDROID-v4-2/m-p/127475/highlight/tru...

 

Cheers,

Ryan

Hiker
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Re: Gopro Fusion - First impressions - PROs & CONs and requests

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Good summary from the OP, I have yet to receive my Fusion, should be here in a few days :)
In regards to render times, it sounds about right.

You have to consider that you are dealing with 5.2K footage, 4K footage requires about 4times the amount of processing power compared to HD, the increase is exponential. 5.2K is a lot of data to go through and the stitching takes additional time, including the stabilisation.

 

I work with 5.2K footage now using other cameras, it simply takes a lot longer to deal with than normal 4k footage.

 

People with Macs should be aware, since Macs generally have average specs at best, processing and render times can take very long.

Ideally use a custom build rig for optimal editing performance. My i7 extreme and 1080 ti will eat through those 5.2k like a hot knife through butter but even a modern-ish laptop can take a very long time for just 30min of footage, be aware !

Hiker
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Re: Gopro Fusion - First impressions - PROs & CONs and requests

This is interesting-

  • Rendering-time: on my i7-Desktop machine with a GTX980ti-graphiccard one minute will take maybe 4 minutes (download from camera included) - My brandnnew Gigabyte-Notebook Aero X15 (i7-7700HQ / GTX1070) needs approx. 40(!) minutes. The CPU is just used with 30-40% load. An issue of the Studio-Software I think.

Are these times for 5.2K or 4K render?

 

I am currently usigng an old laptop (i5-5300U 2.3GHz, 8GB RAM + Intel HD 5500 integrated graphics) and 4K stitch takes me 40 mins per minute of Fusion source files.I am planning on build/pre-build desktop with i7-8700K + GTX 1080ti (significant bump up). But given how crypto mining has bumped up the graphics card prices now, I was thinking about dropping down a bit on the card. Surprising that your gtx10170 takes 40 minutes too. Seems like it is not even being used.

 

Thanks! 

Hiker
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Re: Gopro Fusion - First impressions - PROs & CONs and requests

@textrovert your proposed build would be the way to go. Your custom rig will improve render times dramatically.

It is unfortunate timing, you are right, since GPU prices have increased due to increased demand from cryptominers.

You can see from this table some benchmarks people have done:

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Hiker
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Re: Gopro Fusion - First impressions - PROs & CONs and requests

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@quickboost51431 thats' an excellent comparison table. Very useful.

Thanks for posting it!