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Hiker
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Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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Can you please verify the firmware???
Tourist
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Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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I have GoPro HEro 8 with last firmware v2.0 (checked yesterday) and i have no option to get clean hdmi output at startup.

Hiker
Posts: 24

Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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No, I mean firmware on the Media Mod
Tourist
Posts: 6

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How I check it ?
Hiker
Posts: 24

Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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No idea sorry

Backpacker
Posts: 8,186

Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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The media mod does not have it's own firmware, it's simply an interface, the only firmware that can be updated and that controls the media mod is that of the GoPro Hero 8.  

 

The default mode for the media mod upon start up is media playback.  By learning the correct combination button presses, you can very easily switch your media mod from media playback to a "clean" feed out (which as far as I remember is 3 button presses of the mode button and 1 button press of the shutter button).

 

 

Hiker
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Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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Indeed - Given that this workaround of button presses makes live strearming (HDMI out) possible, why hasn't GoPro updated the firmware that runs on the camera itself to provide this as a single setting, as was the case in prior cameras?

 

Instead, what they appear to have done w/ the v 2.0 firmware is allow you only to set this up via an app running on a smartphone talking to your camera.  That doesn't help those of us for which the app doesn't work on our cellphone (me) or who are not carrying our smartphone around with them  while filming.

 

@GoPro really needs to step up.  As someone who works in  hardware and software development and release, I can tell you that the absolute best way to lose customers is to take features (or ease of use) away when you make a new release

Hiker
Posts: 13

Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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I might add that the 4 button press workaround is completely undocumented by GoPro.

Backpacker
Posts: 8,186

Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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Um.... yes it is, it's in the instructions for the various settings for the media mod, where do you think I learned it?  

Tourist
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Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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It wasn't in the Media Mod instructions when I purchased it.  I had to figure it out.  

Tourist
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Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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You mean that if I connect a smartphone to the hero 8 I can turn off the HUD showed with the media mod? Is this option permanent or I have to set it up at every startup ?
Thanks

@GoPro PLEASE add this option in the GoPro menu like hero 7.
Tourist
Posts: 6

Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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@GoPro  please listen to us and add this little option, even in the labs firmware!!! this gopro for me is a **bleep** without thi option!!! 

Hiker
Posts: 24

Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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Hi all,

Hope this helps someone else. But I've just run (and rerun) some tests, when I use the batteries from a Hero 7 (non-blue top) in a Hero 8, the camera goes straight to live out (no gallery/media mode). When I put the blue top batteries in (supplied with Hero 8), the media mode is back at startup. Both batteries were at similar capacities (~40%), no external power. I've done this about 10 times now, all with the same result. I'm not sure how this might affect other performance, but it seems to be doing something. Try it and let me know

Backpacker
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That's one of the oddest things I've read in a long time, it would indicate that there is maybe some sort of BMS communication between the battery and the camera and it's causing the effect you described.

 

I'll try this out later today and see if I can replicate.  Well done for finding that out though and for doing repeated testing to ensure it wasn't a once off.

Hiker
Posts: 24

Re: Go Pro 8 Black HDMI out option using Media Mod

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I agree, it is odd, though when you put the Hero 7 battery in, you get a warning that not all features are available. Apparently it will deactivate (or limit) Hypersmooth, as the older batteries can't discharge high enough current. So I suspect it is also somehow affecting the live out function.

Hiker
Posts: 24

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ok, I have tried to replicate this with a number of Media Mods, and of course it only works on some of them, some of the times....Robot Sad

 

Anyhow, I think there is another workaround, though it requires you to use the GoPro app:

 

  1. with Media Mod installed (and stock Hero 8 battery), connect to the camera using the app (note, connecting power to the camera will generally wake up the wireless connections if they have gone dormant)
  2. the camera will boot up, watch the app screen carefully
  3. as soon as the camera control screen is loaded, press the photo mode icon at the bottom of the screen
  4. this seems to cancel the gallery mode, and will take you to control mode. You can now use the app to change modes/settings/start and stop record etc without using the button pushes
Sightseer
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Created an account explicitly to reply to this thread, and say how ridiculous this is.

 

Just give us the option to start with a clean HDMI out!

 

@aenriquezis there any movement on this? Soooo many people need this feature, and it was available on previous GoPro gens!!

Sightseer
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Thanks all.  I was just about to order hardware when I came across this thread. Not beaing able to start with a clean HDMI out using the media mod is a showstopper for me.  GoPro product managers, heads up this is costing you sales.  I realize I'm not making a dent in your bottom line but I can't be the only one who has decided to not buy due to this issue.

Tourist
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I agree!

I wanted to buy the gopro hero 7 until I came across this threat. I need a clean and simple hdmi output. Please fix.